Drucker on Asia (1997)
Peter F. Drucker
https://www.nycp.com/gallery/BPeterDrucker10_10_2012.jpgDialog with Isao Nakauchi
“At Christmas 1949, when I had just begun to teach management at New York University, my father, then seventy-three years old, came to visit us from California.
Right after New Year’s, on January 3, 1950, he and I went to visit an old friend of his, the famous economist Joseph Schumpeter. My father had already retired, but Schumpeter, then sixty-six and world famous, was still teaching at Harvard and was very active as the president of the American Economic Association.
In 1902 my father was a very young civil servant in the Austrian Ministry of Finance, but he also did some teaching in economics at the university. Thus he had come to know Schumpeter, who was then, at age nineteen, the most brilliant of the young students.
Two more-different people are hard to imagine: Schumpeter was flamboyant, arrogant, abrasive, and vain; my father was quiet, the soul of courtesy, and modest to the point of being self-effacing. Still, the two became fast friends and remained fast friends.
By 1949 Schumpeter had become a very different person. In his last year of teaching at Harvard, he was at the peak of his fame. The two old men had a wonderful time together, reminiscing about the old days. Suddenly, my father asked with a chuckle, ‘Joseph, do you still talk about what you want to be remembered for?’
Schumpeter broke out in loud laughter. For Schumpeter was notorious for having said, when he was thirty or so and had published the first two of his great economics books, that what he really wanted to be remembered for was having been ‘Europe’s greatest lover of beautiful women and Europe’s greatest horseman – and perhaps also the world’s greatest economist.’
Schumpeter said, ‘Yes, this question is still important to me, but I now answer it differently. I want to be remembered as having been the teacher who converted half a dozen brilliant students into first-rate economists.’
He must have seen an amazed look on my father’s face, because he continued, ‘You know, Adolph, I have now reached the age where I know that being remembered for books and theories is not enough. One does not make a difference unless it is a difference in the lives of people.’
One reason my father had gone to see Schumpeter was that it was known that the economist was very sick and would not live long. Schumpeter died five days after we visited him.
I have never forgotten that conversation. I learned from it three things:
First, one has to ask oneself what one wants to be remembered for.
Second, that should change. It should change both with one’s own maturity and with changes in the world.
Finally, one thing worth being remembered for is the difference one makes in the lives of people.
I am telling this long story for a simple reason. All the people I know who have managed to remain effective during a long life have learned pretty much the same things I learned. That applies to effective business executives and to scholars, to top-ranking military people and to first-rate physicians, to teachers and to artists.
Whenever I work with a person, I try to find out to what the individual attributes his or her success. I am invariably told stories that are remarkably like mine.”
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